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I am ashamed of my country - alyburns' (aka sideburns & alyjude) Hiding Place
If you spoke faster than David Hewlett you’d travel back in time: Michael Shanks
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I am ashamed of my country
It's as simple as that. Today, for the first time in American history, a President of the United States had to take time (it will turn out to be wasted) away from all the horrific issues we face to 'show' his birth certificate - yet again. Yes, AGAIN. He dealt with the issue in 2008, 2009, 2010 and now, on live television, in 2011.

Earlier this evening, I cried as I listened to Goldie Taylor tell us why this 'birther' issue is so vile (which makes Trump even more vile) and you can read her words here by scrolling  past Mr. Trump to her words. I suspect they may make you cry as well for her message is clear - and horrifying.

I must also clear something up. I'm not a Republican basher. I love my Democrat, Libertarian,  Republican, hell, even my shipper friends *g*, but I have no respect for Republican politicians and therein lie (or is it lay? *g*) the difference.

Our two main parties have a long history of give and take, but beginning in 2007, the Republican party has been hijacked by a few wealthy men/corporations and, when you hijack a party, that means you've bought the politicians. Even the best Republican politician is currently stuck between the rock (the money that bought his or her seat) and a hard place (his or her constituents). If they speak up, if they dare go against the current policies and goals of the party (meaning the money), they know they'll lose their seat.  To give you an example of how they're being run by money, at how utterly ridiculous our Republican politicians are, look at the response from the Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus today, following the President's conference on his birth certificate:

“The president ought to spend his time getting serious about repairing our economy,” Priebus said. “Unfortunately, his campaign politics and talk about birth certificates is distracting him from our number one priority — our economy.”

His talk about birth certificates???? HIS? President Obama has ignored this issue while trying to get his job done - and why? Because of the complete pettiness (and the dark horror behind its real meaning) of the issue as brought to the forefront by Trump. Obama understood it's been nothing but a huge publicity stunt and one that is so shameful that we've nothing to compare it to in our past. But it's come to a head and Obama had no choice so, today, he put it to rest:

 
And what did Trump do?
He took the credit - and discussed his show - and his possible presidency.
Gee, what a FUCKING surprise.
 

I'm ashamed we've even given Trump any coverage, that the news has given him the power to bring this issue to such a frenzy (over 50 news segments since Trump started - most on FoxNews).
 
We truly are "Ugly Americans". And as for NBC Entertainment - they may be worse than Trump. They *know* if Celebrity Apprentice will return next year with Trump, but are they releasing the info to their own news division? 

NO. Why? 

RATINGS
 

Will today's events change anything? No. Money still rules, even for a so-called reality show. And money rules our politicians. But we can do something - we can stop listening to the lies. We can accept the fact that the rich have much to lose and even more to gain if they control our government.

How? Here's just a few examples:

1. The end of government interference in plants that spew dangerous chemicals into our air and water
2. The end of government interference in how states run their schools, thus the education of our young (did you know that in many states right NOW, The Adventures of Tom Sawyer are banned from the schools and libraries?)
3. The end of government interference in how to build or structure a building for the disabled. No more space wasted on larger restrooms, ramps, special parking, and the hiring of the disabled
4. The end of government interference in who is hired (meaning women and minorities step back to the 1950's and beyond)
5. ALL medical care would go into the hands of private companies with no government breathing down their back to ensure fair, equal and stellar care
6. Complete control of cities (and thus districts) which gives complete control of voting blocks - thus the end of the Democratic party, to name just one
7. PROFITS PROFITS PROFITS
8. RELIGION RELIGION RELIGION (and only ONE)

BTW: Perhaps you missed the recent addendum that was recently added to the bill that would finally grant the First Responders the medical care they so desperately need. It says that before they can receive their money, it must be proven that they're NOT terrorists.

Yep. NOT terrorists. Don't believe me? Watch this - and btw, watch the whole thing for more on how the Republicans are 'helping out'.
 

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cross_stitchery From: cross_stitchery Date: April 28th, 2011 04:48 am (UTC) (Link)
i'm sorry to say i think you're right about it turning out to be a waste of time. why? because there is only one explanation that makes sense as to why this particular president has been challenged in this particular way.

racism.

i'm not accusing *all* "birthers" of racism. i'm sure there are some well meaning dupes who believe these kind of conspiracy theories, and probably think that with so much smoke there's got to be some fire *somewhere*.

but the people who started this vile campaign, and have continued to push this agenda? i can only assume that they do so because the thought of a black man being president of the US is such anathema that they can only deal with it by telling themselves he's not *really* the president. that he somehow cheated his way into office by concealing his birth and that means it doesn't count.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: April 29th, 2011 02:55 am (UTC) (Link)

you have nailed it!

it *is* racism (excluding those few who always believe in conspiracy theories - although - some of them might want to investigate *why* this one resonates with them)

And yes, I agree as to why this campaign was started and would add that in addition to their certainty that a black man has NO RIGHT to BE President, it's also given them the necessary fear factor that allows them to play to it and thus get the most bang for their racists and greedy hearts. :(
cluesby4 From: cluesby4 Date: April 28th, 2011 09:54 am (UTC) (Link)

You know, Aly, my first thought to all this mess was not against Trump. It was...why didn't Obama do this a long time ago. He could have put to rest all this speculation if he just taken care of this to begin with.

angelsmile1 From: angelsmile1 Date: April 28th, 2011 11:08 am (UTC) (Link)
My first thought was disappointment that he gave in. I felt that he was dignifying a campaign that had little if anything to do with his politics and was more of a personal campaign. Once he explained I had to agree because he was right that all policy debates had faded to the background because of Trump inflaming the issue. I heard one commentator (Hannity) try to justify the campaign against President Obama by saying that McCain's place of birth had also been questioned, however for McCain the short form was sufficient proof. Not so for Obama. Sure enough there will be those that still will question it even though they have gotten what they were asking for. Trump is speaking about authentication and failing that he now wants the President to produce his college grades because we all know good grades in college are essential for a good President. Our last President had a 2.35 grade point average and is known for making nonsensical comments on a regular basis, but a President who graduated in the top 10% of his class at Harvard is suspect? Would or has any other President been treated with such suspicion from the very beginning?

I hesitate in all cases to call any adverse behavior racism, because it is such a strong accusation and I usually like to make excuses rather than make that claim. This is coming from a black woman that has been repeatedly described as a white girl in a black body. In the case of President Obama however I have never seen a President be so vehemently disrespected. A congressman yelling out "Liar" as he gives a speech, opposition party rallies with signs depicting him as Hitler and calling him marxist, communist, socialist, government officials circulating hateful and racist emails, and an obvious reluctance to refer to him by the honorific President in some cases. These actions would have been scandalous had they happened to any other President, but for President Obama there is a brief mention and then on to other things. It's hard to think that all of this stems from anything, but racism. There is also the sad fact that black men are just not thought of as authority figures on the same level and deserving the same respect as white men. This is an attitude that is a part of society even for those that would not consider themselves racist or even prejudiced.

With an election coming up I would wish that people would be more aware of what they are saying and how they are behaving, but I have no real faith that it will happen. Before Obama ran for President I was firmly in the camp of those believing that racism was relegated to a very small group of somewhat isolated people. That no longer feels true for me and it makes me sad as I really enjoyed the view through my rose colored glasses.
cluesby4 From: cluesby4 Date: April 28th, 2011 01:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
Sadly, I feel 'racism' is a label and excuse that has been thrown out there too much. At no time have I ever thought of the color of the man's skin during the entire time of this issue - but I have felt that voters had a right to question who they are voting for.

For my district we are represented by an African American who is a Republican. Racism?

This country will never advance as long as people use this line of reasoning along with the current TWO PARTY system. Both need to change.

Edited at 2011-04-28 01:52 pm (UTC)
angelsmile1 From: angelsmile1 Date: April 28th, 2011 03:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
I personally also believe that in some instances issues are labeled as racism when they are not. I also believe that voters have a right to question who they are voting for. However, when it comes to the questioning of this President an answer is not enough he must also provide proofs that go beyond what has been expected of others. While some people may have been swayed and led to question by the theories and opinions of others, I truly believe that those that latched on to this issue and wouldn't let it go when he first produced proof had hidden motivations.

An African American Republican being elected to office does not preclude the existence of racism. It simply means, in my opinion, that fortunately racists are not the majority. While everything is not racism this country will also never advance if we act as if it does not exist at all.

All that said my main point was that while to some producing the "long form" of his birth certificate was something he should have and/or could have done a long time ago to others it is somewhat of an insult that the "short form" that he had already produced was good enough proof for the other candidates but not him. And from my listening to some news shows today even that is not good enough without extensive authentication. Apparently when it comes to the President even the state of Hawaii cannot be trusted.
cluesby4 From: cluesby4 Date: April 28th, 2011 03:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
> Apparently when it comes to the President even the state of Hawaii cannot be trusted.

Indeed even the media cannot be trusted after I have personally witnessed the way texts were manipulated to suit new reports. And all media is bias...MSNBC - liberal, FOX - conservative. It is up to each individual to gleam what information they need and accept.

> While everything is not racism this country will also never advance if we act as if it does not exist at all.

Personally I am starting to label this as reverse stereotyping. Yes, there is racism in the WORLD, not just in the US. Example: France's view of the burqa.

Yes, racism should be recognized as a factor. However, it is not the sole reason for all actions. And when you tag my views with racism I resent it. You don't know me, like I don't know you. For that matter I don't know Obama, but he took the step to become representative of ALL Americans and as such he is answerable to all Americans, even us DUPES. (People really need to be careful of their labeling or they may be thought to be stereotyping. ;-)



Edited at 2011-04-28 03:41 pm (UTC)
angelsmile1 From: angelsmile1 Date: April 28th, 2011 03:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
This is why I hate to comment at all. There is nothing in your reply that I thought was racist. You stated the first thought that came to you and then I stated the first thought that came to me. My intent was then to go on and state what I thought the issue really evolved from in the first place. I also made no comment about racism only being in the US. I was simply commenting on one incident. As far as use of the word DUPES that also did not come from me. I have never even used the word before. I do not label or stereotype people and was not doing that to you. I think if you take these comments and apply them to the original post you might see it in a different light.
cluesby4 From: cluesby4 Date: April 28th, 2011 08:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
Not sure what happened to my last response.

Please note and reread my response. First, I was not attacking you personally. I'm sorry if that is how it was interpreted. One of the faults of the internet. You can't see my face or hear the tone of my voice.

Secondly, the last part of the response was to address all responders. I do standby the viewpoint that there is reverse racism or stereotyping...hence the immediate viewpoint of the situation - racism or those who are not racist are dupes.

If everyone agreed with each other in everything, including politics, this world would be a boring place. If people would accept the fact that not everyone agrees with each other the more peaceful the world will be. And most importantly, people can be united under one cause, but for many different reasons.
cross_stitchery From: cross_stitchery Date: April 29th, 2011 03:41 am (UTC) (Link)
i'm sorry that you took offence at my dupes comment, but honestly? i don't know how else to describe this fiasco.

your first response above was to ask why didn't Obama do something about this long ago? well, he did - when he produced the "short form" certificate how long ago? two years? three? (it seems like this has been going on forever)

at that point there were only ever two possible explanations:

1. the President was born in the USA. end of story

2. the President was lying, breaking the law, and had somehow fraudulently obtained a faked birth certificate. in which case, he should have been impeached.

he wasn't impeached, because there was not one shred of evidence to back up the lies about his birth and those spreading the lies must have known that because if they'd *had* any such evidence they would have produced it and been baying for his blood.

and, okay, maybe they weren't being racist. maybe they were just cynically using any means possible to derail this presidency. it doesn't make them any less offensive to me.

so, we come back to the 'dupes' remark. i'm not a genius. it doesn't take a lot of reasoning ability to come up with steps one and two above, yet i've seen it reported that over 40% of Americans believe that Obama wasn't born in America. so why were so many Americans unable to do the math? because they're racist? or because they blindly believed the lies and smear campaigns of the far Right?

i wonder, if another poll were to be conducted next week, whether those numbers would have dropped even one percentage point or whether people will continue to believe what they want to believe.

and, btw i'm not trying to imply that America alone is racist. racism exists everywhere. but this *specific* instance is very much an American phenomenon.
cluesby4 From: cluesby4 Date: April 29th, 2011 03:55 am (UTC) (Link)
If you look at the percentage of people who vote it is very small compare to the population of our country.

And if you look at those polls (some which can be easily manipulated) you will also note that people can be very ignorant.

I remember one poll during the presidential campaign when some people honestly thought Palin and Obama were on the same ticket.

As I stated to Aly, the first time all this mess was brought up what I remember was Obama's laughing response. Not a serious one. I really believe if he had seriously addressed the issue at first my view and those of others would have been different...From Beergate to all the cracks the man has made, I have not been impressed to tell you the truth.

And again I stand by the fact everything is not two sides...one reason. Many people have many views and reasons. Because I dislike Obama it's not because of the color of his skin. To this day I think the best President we could have had was Colin Powell. I love that man, especially after reading his biography. HE was what this country needed.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: May 4th, 2011 01:29 am (UTC) (Link)

I get you,

and understand what you mean, and what I think you're missing is that we're not talking about folks who just don't like Obama as President, we're talking about those whose specific dislike is based on racism and it's a large group, and even though you don't see him that way, doesn't negate the fact that it does exist, it's a huge part of the problem and it's setting this country back years. :( We can't afford to ignore the racism just because we don't experience it ourselves, you know what I mean?

And why shouldn't Obama laugh? It was a RIDICULOUS thing to have happen but proved one thing: he's colorblind. In the beginning, when this started, he never saw it as a racist attack on a "black" President, so naturally he laughed as I would have had it happened to me. That would have been my first response too. It's like all those people who spent thousands of dollars putting up websites that 'proved' Obama was actually Osama. All one can do is laugh - because the alternative is to cry at the hopelessness and stupidity and cruelty of a larger part of our country than I care to accept exists (but ultimately must *sighs*).
alyburns From: alyburns Date: May 4th, 2011 01:33 am (UTC) (Link)

PS:

Here's a video that tried to prove Osama and Obama were the same man - from 2009.

angelsmile1 From: angelsmile1 Date: April 28th, 2011 03:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
To be fair and to clarify I do believe that there are people who do not like him simply because of his politics. I would much rather hear from them and their legitimate ideas instead of those that have made it their mission to attack him personally no matter how trivial the excuse.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: April 29th, 2011 03:18 am (UTC) (Link)

Honey, he DID do it

He's done it no less than THREE times, including a copy on the website back in 2008. And more importantly, with the history of blacks being forced to 'show their papers' going back to the Reconstruction Era, i think it's more important to ask WHY SHOULD HE?

And now Trump is attacking his scholastic achievements - and since when has ANY president had someone demand their 'report cards'????? Not even during the campaign, Susan.

It's time to admit the truth - he's our President and, like the law, is INNOCENT until proven otherwise and it's the responsibility of the persecution, sorry, prosecution, to prove anything else. This is about racism, sweetie, and Obama owes us nothing but a good job. He was vetted by the DNC long before he announced his candidacy and you can be certain that all necessary documents were in place. Did you watch the videos on the page? Read Ms. Taylor's remarks?

I remember a movie, one I bet you watched too? The American President, with Michael Douglas as the President, a widower? In the movie, he falls in love (with Annette Bening) and refuses to dignify the mean-spirited and nasty reports about their relationship thrown out by the opposition (Richard Dreyfus) who was preparing to run against Douglas on the "Family Values" platform. This isn't much different. Obama has put forth proof beyond anyone's expectation, repeatedly, and still, because he's *different* - the birthing issue was fueled continually until it culminated with Trump, a caricature of a man who is only after ratings.

Many Americans have feelings opposite to yours: they're angry Obama gave in - AGAIN - and took time out to address the ridiculous and unconscionable request. :( I felt the same way. Therein may be a Grand Canyon of a difference between so many of us? Those who said, "Why didn't he do it before?" (because they never noticed that he had - repeatedly) versus "Why give in to all this racist gibberish?" (by those of us who knew of the letters, the certificate on file, the affidavits, and both versions of the certificate)? *shrug*
cluesby4 From: cluesby4 Date: April 29th, 2011 03:42 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Honey, he DID do it

Aly, I would admit that I have not kept up with this mess on his birth certificate after he was elected. But during the campaign he did not address the question of his birth, especially with the certificate, at first, but did something that I consider a bad habit - he laughed it off. And that was what made it very suspicious to me. I really think if he had seriously address this issue when it was first brought up we wouldn't have all this mess now.

And I seriously thought there was merit to the issue when you looked at his father and where they lived, besides Hawaii. He could have easily been born out of the country. At that time and now I do not see it as a racial issue, but a reasonable one of legitimacy.

Once he was elected, I did accept him as President. And I thought the question of his citizenship was mute.

I must admit I hated The American President. Again I felt it was too rigid view of the two party government. It reflected everything that is wrong about our government and I'm afraid our mindset.

alyburns From: alyburns Date: April 29th, 2011 04:09 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Honey, he DID do it

Of course he laughed it off - as would I have. To be questioned about it means the belief was that he LIED and that carries a whole 'nother set of problems because the facts of his birth should mean NOTHING. So what if a parent was from another country? Would anything have been said if that country had been SWEDEN? Or the UK? NO. It's because the country was Kenya. Obama's mistake was to believe that America had moved past the need for proof of a black man's 'papers'. *That's* why he laughed it off - in ONE appearance, because he still had a belief in color blindness. :( And I *have* been following this, and all the other politics - done my research, read both sides of every question, gone to the government website to read all the new and proposed laws, the budget, Ryans budget (which, btw, isn't new), the whole thing. I have a political blog now and yes, this takes up my time as I lie in bed *g*. I research the people who are related to the politicians, who get certain jobs, like Benton Harbor and the resort that's planned.

Every answer can be found - but Americans have to research. We have to care enough to LOOK things up, find out how our representatives really voted. Read all the laws before votes, and then act when we disagree.

Most Americans don't even know the name of their own state senator or representative. They don't know that every proposed law can be found on the government site. Every addendum can be found. My eyes were really opened when I read the Budget and all the crap that had been attached. It was insulting, horrifying and, until others go read it, a real dialogue isn't possible. :( We ALL must be equally aware of what's happening with our Congress. That needs to be the first thing Americans should do. The era of trusting our representatives to do what WE want, to do right by us, is long gone. It went out the door in the 20's. :(
cluesby4 From: cluesby4 Date: April 29th, 2011 04:26 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Honey, he DID do it

They don't know that every proposed law can be found on the government site. Every addendum can be found. My eyes were really opened when I read the Budget and all the crap that had been attached. It was insulting, horrifying and, until others go read it, a real dialogue isn't possible. :( We ALL must be equally aware of what's happening with our Congress. That needs to be the first thing Americans should do. The era of trusting our representatives to do what WE want, to do right by us, is long gone. It went out the door in the 20's. :(

There you go...it is NOT about racism, Aly. It is in the almighty dollar and what is in it for me. And for some of us, like you and me, it is down to our survival. But for the politicians it is more of playing the game. I fear it is too late to hear...what's good for the country....and sacrifices. Those like Senator Byrd are dying out...but I fear the pork barrel spending is still here or backing special interests.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: May 3rd, 2011 04:26 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Honey, he DID do it

"There you go...it is NOT about racism, Aly. It is in the almighty dollar..."

I have to disagree in a way. Yes, it's about money. BUT - if we didn't have a black President, the Koch brothers and others like him would NEVER have made such bold moves and the Tea Party wouldn't exist. That's *why* it's racism. It's the idea of a black man in THEIR White House that is motivating all of this *now*. It's the fears these men and women are playing off of to get their way - they're using race. Does that make sense?
alyburns From: alyburns Date: April 29th, 2011 03:49 am (UTC) (Link)

PS:

I must add that all things are not based on race, and of course we have lots of black politicians in both parties (heck, there are even gay Republicans - surely an oxymoron if there ever was one *G*) - but in this instance, it is because a black man is our President - and you know there are people out there who ARE afraid. Not you, not me, but plenty of others and they're the ones who are being manipulated by people like the Koch brothers, who are using it - even where it doesn't exist - to feed the fears and frenzy.

Surely you agree that if Obama wasn't black (but all other facts remained the same), this would never have gone this far, right? And isn't McCain a perfect example of that statement?

Gosh, before I go on, let me state for the record that I don't believe you're a racist. *G* You know I love you dearly and you're one of the most gentle and generous folks on Earth, right? *g* This is simply a discussion as we delve into how we each view what's happening, as far as I'm concerned - and a healthy discussion too! :) So, to add to it, I admit that I'm curious, so do you mind if I ask if you're proud of what our Republican representatives are doing in Congress and certain states? Do you agree with the addendum regarding the First Responders, for instance? Or what's happening in Wisconsin and the sudden hatred for teachers and their loss of collective bargaining? Not that I think Walker will get away with it when all is said and done - but other states are and have. :(

Or what's happening in other states governed by Republican Governors who are taking rights away from the people and cities, like Michigan's "Financial Marshall Law" act? Do you agree with that and what's happening to the first city to fall to it, Benton Harbor?

I know I'm mad as hell at the Democrats (but then, I started my own party, remember? *G*), so this isn't a discussion between a Republican and a Democrat *G*. I could give you a long list of shit that the Democrats have 'given in to' in the last two years, or where they failed to step up and stop the insanity, but then, their jobs depend on money too. :(

What we need is total reform where elections are concerned and the first law that needs to be changed is the one that allowed corporations to be considered "Individuals". *shakes head sadly* That one alone would make a huge difference.





Edited at 2011-04-29 03:50 am (UTC)
cluesby4 From: cluesby4 Date: April 29th, 2011 04:19 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: PS:

Good Lord, Aly. You should know me from now! ;-)

I actually hate BOTH the parties. I don't think I have come across one representative that I truly have faith in. Although I will laugh at my 'attaboy' attitude toward Paul Ryan the other day. I hate his proposed budget, but I love how he addressed the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Energy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yluiM7zM1PM&feature=youtu.be

(South Carolina is thinking of manufacturing its own light bulbs, which I heartily endorse after a year of living with these 'energy saving' bulbs! I am going blind!)

But back to the topic...I really think we need to revamp our government. NOT in the area of check and balances. But the electoral procedure and how our representatives are paid. There really needs to be an accountability procedure established.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: May 3rd, 2011 04:19 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: PS:

Actually, I did think you once told me you were a Republican (and in sympathy to much of the Tea Party issues?) - so sorry 'bout that. :) But YES, we do need to totally revamp our government with regard to the electoral procedure, redistricting, the whole thing. You are RIGHT-ON, babe! (which is why I'm trying to start a new party! LOL!)

As to the light bulbs, this is why the law was signed:
"...once fully implemented, (they) will save the average household $100 to $200 a year in energy costs and cut power-plant pollution by 100 million tons — the equivalent of taking 17 million cars off the road. The standard had bipartisan support when it was passed and was signed into law by President George W. Bush." BTW: He signed it in 2007.

And I think you mean Rand Paul and his attack on Kathleen Hogan, not Ryan. :) Unfortunately, most of what he said was inaccurate and exaggerated. No one is telling us what kind of toilets to buy, but new toilets that conserve water (and no one can disagree on how important that has become) have been designed now and many states have enacted new conservation laws that require new BUSINESSES to install a low-flow toilet and even new apartment complexes. We had them at my business and they worked fine. Rand Paul's real issue in that clip was the light bulbs because he and the Tea Party in Congress want to repeal the very law Bush signed in 2007 (and they have G.E. on their backs to get it done, too, btw). And I might add that the US is way behind the rest of the world on making this change. Check this out for all the facts.

So no, I can't agree with your 'atta boy' for Rand Paul *g*, but I do agree that more needs to be investigated regarding the two choices we'll have by 2014. As for 'choice', I have to heartily disagree with Rand. There are many areas where we can't give people a choice. Example: California has led the fight to make smoking in public illegal, remember? At first, sure, there were tons of arguments, but now? It's the norm and Californians have trouble traveling to areas where the same laws aren't in place. Smoking kills and 2nd hand smoking kills, so the *choice* to do it in public, in restaurants, etc. had to taken from us for the betterment of the whole.

Rand Paul himself wants to take away the choice of women regarding abortions, so he really has no right to chastise Hogan, who is simply supporting a bill which *may* actually be better for us.

So which *choice* is really worth the discussion by Rand? With the light bulbs, he should have dumped the use of 'choice' and argued for more investigation into the light bulb choices. That's a discussion I can get behind. I have one of the new bulbs, but have yet to use it permanently since I've yet to need it. *G* The regular light bulb in my nightstand lamp - which must be at least five years old - is still working - and I still have ten regular light bulbs, so based on their lifespan, I expect I'll never need to use one of the new-fangled ones in my life time! LOL!
claudia603 From: claudia603 Date: April 28th, 2011 11:41 am (UTC) (Link)
It's racism pure and simple.

carlinjona From: carlinjona Date: April 28th, 2011 12:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have to agree with the other commenters - it's racism. How many other Presidents had to show their birth certificates?

Frankly, as a non-American, watching even the small amount of coverage this has had on our tv news, people here are wondering what the hell is going on over there, and how could anyone possibly countenance someone like Trump running, or thinking of running for president. When he said he'd just take the Libyan's oil... well, US politics has always been quite incomprehensible to me, now it's just a joke.

Obama filled a lot of people, in many countries, with hope for a brighter future. Now we see him being stimied and attacked from all sides, by his own people. It's such a shame.
angelsmile1 From: angelsmile1 Date: April 28th, 2011 03:29 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have wondered how the treatment of President Obama plays to other countries. I have heard politicians says that he is not taken seriously by other countries, but I wonder if it is true how much of it is based on how they see him being treated by his opposition.

I heard Trump make that statement also and I was pretty much under the impression that we could not do that. He also said something along the lines of making other countries pay us when they ask for our help. I don't even know what to say about that. I guess we will know if he is really serious when he lets us know if he is running or not.
cross_stitchery From: cross_stitchery Date: April 30th, 2011 01:44 am (UTC) (Link)
I have wondered how the treatment of President Obama plays to other countries.

over here (New Zealand), they mostly think the birther people are a bunch of lunatics :P

there's a recent article here, if you want to read it.
brihana25 From: brihana25 Date: April 29th, 2011 04:53 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, I'm here late, but I agree with you. At its core, it is racism. And I think that most people who think about it can see that. The majority of people who can't or won't see it as racism and will scream themselves blue in the face denying that it is are, by and large, the ones who are doing it.

What's sad is that they honestly don't believe it is.
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