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If you spoke faster than David Hewlett you’d travel back in time: Michael Shanks
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Since I refuse to acknowledge this day
(other than to eat chocolate without guilt), I shall, instead, gripe about Hawaii 5-0. Under the cut, natch, since I'd hate to spoil anything - as if this show offered any surprises *rolls eyes*


Last night had one redeeming factor - the "Female character-that-Didn't-Work" went bye-bye. Duh. But other than that, the episode was utterly ridiculous and not even the "Steve/Danno" moments really sustain me anymore. For one thing, I just can't see Danno putting up with living with a real Superman - and a foolish one at that.

So where do I start with the fiasco that was last night's episode? Should I start with wishing I'd watched Castle instead? Or the opening, which was SO obvious, it stunk? Maybe I should start with a governor (kudos though, to the writers for honoring the late Richard Denning by naming the Governor after him - after all, he played the GOOD governor in the original) and his RIDICULOUS insistence on Steve letting ALL the suspects from the event go without interviewing them. A woman was tossed down a hotel laundry chute and the press would go crazy if they (no if - they WOULD find out) found out the governor refused to allow the police to do their job! It was, to be blunt, beyond saying ridiculous, ASININE! For GOD'S SAKE, the 5-0 has every technological tool known to man and it would have taken, as it did, nothing to track things down without causing any real trouble for the governor. And if he'd let them, the rest would have been...but then, these writers are so dumb, so unimaginative, they couldn't have written anything exciting without writing a stupid governor (who, gosh, just happens to be black - so now CBS has managed to take the position of Governor and with one stroke, destroy TWO minorities: women and blacks - good job, CBS, you dickwads).

Ummm, I might be a tad angry.

Ya think?

But really, I could have LOVED this show so much - it had everything needed to be another TS and that's something I thought would never happen. BUT.

It's not.

It's CRAP.

Do the writers think we're so dumb as to:
A) believe Steve McGarrett doesn't know better than anyone that the bad guy, once inside the embassy, is untouchable? That he would waste any time sounding off and getting all righteous when he's dealt with this kind of thing his whole career??? That was a STUPID scene and totally unbelievable
OR
B) see the amount of blood on the ground under Steve's head and on the hands of "She-Who-Is-Finally-Gone" and think for minute that, "OMG, STEVE MUST HAVE HALF HIS HEAD GONE!" ??? I mean, PULEEZE. We know better. After all, didn't he fall off a roof - which, thanks to the viewpoint of the camera, apparently fell at least two stories down to that convenient balcony - and not even get a fucking bruise??? So of course we weren't fooled by the blood your stooges lavished under his head and on her hands. We knew damn well he'd end up with nothing more than a bandaid (and a few stitches). He is, after all, SUPERSTEVE. *Rolls eyes* Which, by the way, is getting WAY OLD. Way, way, way old. There's "hurt" and then there's "Let's fake out those dumb viewers" hurt and neither one on this show give us anything. 
OR
C) do I really need to mention the fact that Steve no sooner gets hit by a car, then he's taking his 'reserve' time - AT HIS OWN LEISURE????? I guess this is the 'new' Navy. So much sweeter and accommodating than the old one. And the governor? Equally accommodating but he's probably just softening Steve up for the next spy he adds to the 5-0. If he's smart (which, unfortunately, we know he's not), the next one will be a GUY. BTW: Not that I should bother to ask, but just for fun, since when does a guy who's still IN the Navy - have 'reserve duty'????? *slaps head* Sorry, forgot for a moment that this is H50, after all, and SuperSteve.
OR
Oh, hell, I could list the entire alphabet, but why bother, you get the drift.

I'll simply summarize my feelings by saying, "Writers, get thee to a nunnery and DON'T COME BACK."


From now on, Castle wins - EVERY TIME as I refuse to risk it by watching it on My Primetime so that I can waste my eyes on the stink that has become H50. May H50 sink - and soon, before Castle does.

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polly_b From: polly_b Date: February 15th, 2012 02:42 am (UTC) (Link)
I enjoyed the first season enormously, but it only took a couple of shows this season to convince me that H50 was becoming one of those 'love the fanfic, but not the canon' fandoms for me.

darn it.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: February 16th, 2012 12:25 am (UTC) (Link)

And to be honest, the fanfic is waning

because so much has to be literally ignored to enjoy it. In fact, it may be the only fanfic that's actually original fiction now. :(
kaleecat From: kaleecat Date: February 15th, 2012 03:18 am (UTC) (Link)
I gave up long ago. Enjoyed the first season, but . . . yeah its a hot mess now. The only episode I watched since the fall was a re-run of the episode in first season where James Marsters' bad guy returns. (the christmas one, can't remember his bad guy name).

But I've also sort of wandered off from Castle. Not sure why. I really enjoy Castle, love him & his daughter, but I think I got annoyed by the season premiere & how Castle declared himself but of course she doesn't remember. I watch but I've missed a few eps.

There's a lot of my old favorite shows that i'm kind of 'Meh' on. Perhaps its because I know I can catch them on-demand? Because I certainly keep up with the ones that aren't on that service.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: February 16th, 2012 12:24 am (UTC) (Link)

Do you want Castle spoiler?

as in it turns out she does remember? She confessed it to her psychiatrist so this season is moving them closer together in a slow, charming way :) the writers really know how to play this out, compared to other shows that have tried. :( Go back to watching. :)
kaleecat From: kaleecat Date: February 16th, 2012 12:31 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Do you want Castle spoiler?

really?? Huh, guess I'll need to catch up then. I did see the ep when Ryan got married though.

If you're interested, I posted a short fluffy J/D ficlet on my LJ yesterday. Its a companion to one I did last spring (link is on the new post).
alyburns From: alyburns Date: February 18th, 2012 02:25 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Do you want Castle spoiler?

Oooh, over I go! Well, in a minute. :)
nialla42 From: nialla42 Date: February 15th, 2012 03:34 am (UTC) (Link)
I watched season one on DVD as soon as it came out, after hearing the flist raving about it. Was recording season two until I could catch up as well.

After I finished the DVDs, it seemed that the first episode of season two was to wrap things up, and then it became a different show. I never thought it was extremely tight in the writing, but the characters made it interesting. Season two made it seem like everyone's IQ's suddenly dropped, starting in the writer's room.

A new, unnecessary character was introduced in episode two whose stated purpose -- to report back to the governor -- wasn't mentioned again until her departure in episode sixteen. At least in her "feelings" scene, Steve reacted with sort of an "Um, awk-ward!" look on his face.

If we have the same number of episodes as the first season, there's still eight episodes left. Lori might be back, this season or next. The writers seemed almost personally invested in making that character work and be a love interest for Steve.

Though maybe Cath's reappearance as a "recurring girlfriend" means they've given up on anyone else as a love interest for Steve, at least for now. I actually wouldn't mind them sticking with Catherine because at least that might keep them from doing a "girl of the week" think that was the standard decades ago.

I think Chin and Malia are adorable as a couple. I wouldn't mind seeing her at team barbeques and the like, but I don't want romances between team members nor to have romances become a huge part of the storyline. That's what fanfic's for, and it's often better written.

I wonder if the writer's are having problems because season one had the ongoing mystery regarding the contents of the toolbox and the revelations made along the way, making Steve see his father in a whole new light. A nice ongoing thread to weave into just about every episode.

They didn't really have an ongoing mystery like that except Wo Fat trying to figure out who Shelborn (sp?) was. Steve and the viewers know now, and I still don't care.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: February 16th, 2012 12:28 am (UTC) (Link)

I should have paid attention

to the writers this season - see if they've changed. That might explain it? Because you're right - while season 1 still had episodes with major 'truck could drive them' holes, it maintained an element of quality in both acting and some surprises. But now? Blah blah blah. :(
nialla42 From: nialla42 Date: February 16th, 2012 04:12 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: I should have paid attention

I'm not heavily into fandom, but I haven't heard of any writing room shakeups.

I'm hoping this is a severe case of "sophomore slump" for the show and things work out next season. Maybe the writers have learned something by adding Joe and Lori into the mix. Maybe.

I'd much rather have the core four featured, with regular recurring characters like Max, Fong, and Kamekona popping up now and again. Having characters like that gives the show some consistency.

It's just sad to see it start so well as a show that you know is ridiculous on the surface, but you're still having fun with it, to just ridiculous all the way to the core.

ETA: Just looked at IMDB, and it looks like the core is Peter Lenkov, Alex Kurtzman, and Roberto Orci. All three have writer/producer credits, though the writing credits may also include ones co-written by others or simply having the final script revision.

At least I don't see their names showing up in the director's slots too, or else I'd be having Stargate flashbacks. Though it looks like they have a strong thread of sci fi/fantasy shows where it is a lot easier to hang a lampshade (or simply ignore the need for a lampshade) versus more focus on a police procedural show.

I think they need to focus more on procedural aspects, plus from what I was reading (and I'd read in some interviews as well), the production schedule is insane. Scripts running late, shoots running long with footage not used, not to mention dealing with the quick-to-change weather causing production issues as well.

They can't exactly control the weather, but maybe they need to look at fellow CBS show NCIS. They were having similar problems with scripts being late, which then causes everything else to run late. Cast and crew were run ragged.

Mark Harmon supposedly said to TPTB "change it or I'm gone" and they got a new showrunner. Harmon has denied this happened, but the other actors have said this is basically what happened. Harmon's well-established in the industry and I think he's to the point where he doesn't have to work, so he could push as the advocate for cast and crew. Love Alex and the rest, but I don't think any of them have enough push to effect change.

Edited at 2012-02-16 04:46 am (UTC)
alyburns From: alyburns Date: February 18th, 2012 02:24 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: I should have paid attention

You said it better than I did! :)
phantmchic From: phantmchic Date: February 15th, 2012 03:58 am (UTC) (Link)
I agree that H50 has gone majorly downhill this season. Kono has been wasted, so has Chin to a lesser extent. And the amount of Steve/Danno interaction has really lessened as Steve spent more time with Joe and they threw Bori at him. I still love the fanfic, but the canon works for me less and less.

But Castle has gone downhill this season, mostly as a result of them refusing to progress Castle/Beckett at all. But they also seem to have less fun episodes. I miss Castle's glee at some fun twist in a case.

Right now Smash is winning that time-slot for me. But I'm a Broadway lover, so I was always going to give it a shot.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: February 16th, 2012 12:33 am (UTC) (Link)

Oh, now see, I think Castle has regained some of

its charm. We know she knows, and he may know she knows, and their little by-plays have become - well - cute. *cringes at word* There has been a more serious bend to the show, but since it surrounds his desire to keep her safe, it gives him a new dimension that I love. *shrugs* Will they ever resolve the UST? I think so and more importantly for me, I think the writers could actually handle it. Or not. :(

And you're so right - poor Kono and Chin have been pushed to the rear, but with Quinn's character supposedly gone (for now) and the "She-who-spies-but-loves" also gone, one can only hope they'll plug the holes and get back to the show it once was - for a few shining moments. Mmm, Camelot in Hawaii? :) Uh-oh - that makes me think of Merlin....
my_lil_darlin From: my_lil_darlin Date: February 19th, 2012 07:57 am (UTC) (Link)
As my icon shows, you can see why I'm still watching that show. *rolls eyes*

What did TWIC do with my 5-0? Where's the humor, the friendship, the semi-plausible plots? This season is way darker than the first, almost grim, and there's no S/D banter to speak of anymore-- what passes for banter now is more sniping on Danny's part, blah, blah, blah, while Steve stands there with his finger up his nose.

Every show has to have at least one scene with that ridiculous interrogation room that looks like it was pulled straight from some B movie set showing someplace in Guantanamo. Dark, shadowy, dangerous, oooooo! *rolling eyes again* The water boarding must be next!

You're right about the violence being so unbelievable. That show where Steve was half beaten to death in N. Korea? He didn't even have a black eye or a swollen lip afterward. ???? Yeah, I know this is just a show and not RL (duh), but I'd like it to be at least partially believable.

Steve seems to be standing around with his finger up his nose a lot, actually. That stupid scrawny Bori-Lori finally getting written out of the show, standing there telling him, "I care about you," and he looked just about as animated as a wax figure from Madame Tussuad's... ???? again.

Did you make it through all 10 seasons of SG-1, Aly? 'Cause if you did, you could also make it through The Mess That Is Hawaii 5-0, lol. This is bad, but that was worse. OTOH, yeah... why should any of us hang around and be fan-abused all over again?

What a shame. What was started out so well has completely run off the rails. But at least the scenery, both male and Hawaiian, is consistently thud-worthy. Sigh.
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