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Would you help by taking this poll?
Yeah, I know, I've asked a lot recently, but I need this for my blog. :) You have 200 max. to answer, but feel free to expand in the comments. THANK YOU!

Poll #1761494 Political Views

What about the Tea Party first interested you?

Do you think the first Tea partyers whose signs said "Don't touch my Medicare!" are now unhappy about the Party?

What, on the Tea Party platform, do you agree with/disagree with?

How do you feel about the Tea Party as it appears now?

Do you believe that government (our Federal government) was intended to create agencies/departments that best serve the people because those particular agencies/departments should never be run for profit, ie; Environmental Protective Agency, FEMA, Social Security, American Disability Act, Medicare, Food & Drug Administration, etc.

Do you believe the things mentioned in quest. #5 should be honored by all States rather than privatizing those items?

Do you think ending the Bush Tax Cuts on the wealthy should be done to help cut our deficit? And if not, why not?

Do you feel that teachers should lose their bargaining rights and if so, can you provide an explanation?

Do you believe Medicare/SS would be better served if Privatized and if so, why?

What percentage of Americans do you believe understand what 'Privatized' means?

Do you believe all the schools in America should be Charter schools?

How do you feel about a Public Option for health care and why?

Where do you stand on gun control?

briefly state what, in politics, your more conservative/liberal views are?


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caarianna From: caarianna Date: July 13th, 2011 09:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well, being Canadian, I guess you know where I stand. I doubt many Americans know that they pay more per capita for your privatized health care than we do for ours, because you guys not only have to pay for the care, but also more to ensure a profit for the shareholders. Yep, people there get rich from the misfortune of neighbours, friends, family ... nice system you have. People rebel and revolt when they have nothing left to lose -- which was why labour got organized in the first place. Take everything away: decent jobs (sent off shore for cheap labour), health care, poor schools, no hope of decent housing because of no decent wage or because of ill health ... and people soon have nothing left to lose.

The Tea Party will take you quickly into Fortress America where the rich need all their money to build very high walls to keep everyone else out. But even the Bastille came down when folks got angry enough. There are responsible options: yes, remove the tax breaks for the rich; yes, lower govt expenditures (maybe look at the military expenses before attacking the sick and elderly); yes, regulate banks so unscrupulous people can't get rich by playing the margins so dangerously that the whole economy collapses like a house of cards ... maybe check out how Canada does it given the success of our fiscal track record and the quality of life our citizens enjoy.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: July 14th, 2011 01:09 am (UTC) (Link)

I think you should be a guest

"speaker" on my blog *G*
caarianna From: caarianna Date: July 14th, 2011 01:14 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: I think you should be a guest

Well, I suppose that could be arranged. ::grins::

And talking about the Bastille, it's Bastille Day, the national holiday in France!
patk From: patk Date: July 15th, 2011 07:49 am (UTC) (Link)
My more conservative view: If you're a foreigner to a country and you want to live there, work there and benefit from what this country has to give you, you should make a real strong effort to fit in, to get along well with the people whose original home it is and honestly respect the fact that this countries culture might differ from what you feel is "proper".

Is demanding equal rights (in practice and reality, not only on paper) in everything for both genders, any skin-color *and* homosexual people still considered "more liberal"?

Edited at 2011-07-15 07:50 am (UTC)
starwatcher307 From: starwatcher307 Date: July 15th, 2011 08:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't know if demanding equal rights is considered "more liberal" -- but there are growing voices advocating for rescinding various aspects. One potential candidate for Republican president-nominee asserts that the Civil Rights laws are unconstitutional; business should be able to ban ethnicities if they choose. One state is proposing modifying the child labor laws, so that 16-18 years old could work more hours for lesser wages since they'd be in "entry-level" jobs. Seventeen states have passed abortion restrictions so severe that a woman's ability to access abortion services is effectively zero. (Some states are defunding "Planned Parenthood" clinics -- which provide low-cost health/reproductive care to a large percentage of the lower-middle-class and poor women {and some} men in the country.) And several states have passed laws that disallow collective bargaining by unions, or that break up unions completely.

From everything I see / read (on political blogs and MSNBC, several political opinion shows) it really seems that the hardline Republicans are quite literally doing everything they can to make life harder for the "average" American, and to funnel money/rights to the top 1%-2% and to the corporations. Example: whenever democrats or the President suggest closing tax loopholes for the ultra-rich, making them pay a fairer share, the Republicans shout, "No new taxes!" Instead, they want steep cuts in education, medical care for the poor, nutrition help for the poor, social security payments, environmental protection, funding to the agencies that oversee our public safety, and on and on. But we must *still* provide *subsidies* to the oil companies, which are making bigger profits than any company in history.

I'm hoping that all this causes such a backlash that every state and the federal government ends up with 80% liberal-democrat congress and senate in the 2012 elections. BUT, many states are enacting stringent voter-ID laws -- which just *happen* to affect the part of the population more likely to vote Democrat. It's bad; I just hope our country is too big to actually implode before Jan 20, 2013.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: July 16th, 2011 01:44 am (UTC) (Link)

Don't forget the

new laws states are instituting to make it more difficult for 'people' to vote. :(
starwatcher307 From: starwatcher307 Date: July 20th, 2011 02:06 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Don't forget the

:( indeed.

I meant to make that point with my last paragraph; maybe I wasn't pointed enough. It's hard for me to spill the vitriol like I really should.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: July 20th, 2011 02:34 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Don't forget the

Me and vitriol are just like this *makes crossed fingers gesture* when it comes to our government. Now the Republicans are telling folks that NOTHING bad will happen if nothing happens by August 2nd!!! Actually accusing Obama of lying. Good GOD.
fabrisse From: fabrisse Date: July 20th, 2011 03:22 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Don't forget the

I'd also like to point out that one of the reasons I have no vote in Congress as a resident of DC is because they're aware the District tends to vote Democrat.

fabrisse From: fabrisse Date: July 20th, 2011 01:42 am (UTC) (Link)
On the plus side, I can once again use the term "bloated plutocrats" without irony.
starwatcher307 From: starwatcher307 Date: July 20th, 2011 02:11 am (UTC) (Link)
Unfortunately. I wish it could be more figurative.

I just... I can't understand the thinking. How much money is "enough" for them? How many houses do they have to own to feel "secure"? When your company makes $416 billion in profit, why is paying $1 billion in taxes so devastatingly painful to contemplate?

I know -- rhetorical questions; there really is no answer.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: July 20th, 2011 02:35 am (UTC) (Link)


So true!
patk From: patk Date: July 20th, 2011 07:11 am (UTC) (Link)
>>I don't know if demanding equal rights is considered "more liberal<<

You know, it's perfectly possible that I misunderstood the meaning of that question based on what "liberal" means over here. There's the political "liberal" party who's basically the party of the self-employed business runners and then there's the broader, not only political meaning of "more (personal) freedom" and "more equality and fairness". I went with the latter under the (possible mis-)conception that this was meant because it's somewhat in the opposite direction from what counts as "conservative" around here.

But it's possible that I've understood the question completely wrong and my answer therefore doesn't make sense in relation to US-politics. :-S

This said: what you wrote here reads pretty bad and all in all I would consider this as long-term recipe for disaster in the civil society because I assume that people who have to suffer from those plans significantly outnumber those who will thrive on it. This kind of policy isn't fit to build a stable ground for people getting along in a lasting way. :-(
alyburns From: alyburns Date: July 16th, 2011 01:43 am (UTC) (Link)

Oh, yeah

Is demanding equal rights (in practice and reality, not only on paper) in everything for both genders, any skin-color *and* homosexual people still considered "more liberal"?

Very much so, although those in denial would disagree. :(
mmneely932 From: mmneely932 Date: July 20th, 2011 05:25 am (UTC) (Link)
Give it up, from what I have seen of the members most of them are liberals, have little or no tolerance for conservative views. It never ceases to amaze me that liberals are all for freedom of speech until a conservative gets the floor.
Doesn't mean I don't love 'em, just disagree with them.

I do however take exception to people from other countries telling us (the US) what we're doing wrong, why we're so bad and that we're headed to hell in a handbasket.

Yes, my attitude is if you want to live here, that's great, but come through the front door, don't sneak through the back.
And yes, I vehemently oppose paying social security to recent immigrants. For example, my aunt who is 80, who worked HERE in the US all her life draws less SS than some elderly immigrants who never worked a day in this country.
No, I don't think illegal immigrants should get "in state tuition" at state unis.
And my sole reason for opposing insurance benefits for couples who live together (whether homo or hetero sexual) is based on the fact that the above aunt lived with her sister her entire life. They lived together for 76 years until the older one passed away, yet they were not eligible for family plan policies. How much more family can you be?
Climbing down off my soapbox now.
fabrisse From: fabrisse Date: July 20th, 2011 01:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
On the SS Benefits, I worked in Belgium and paid into their Benefits system on the understanding that I would collect from whichever country I was living in at time of collection. The US has treaties on benefits with many countries, so just because the people didn't pay in here, it doesn't mean they didn't pay in at all.

ETA: On the speech issue, I have taken apart some of my liberal friends who've tried that tack with me -- not because I disagree with their point of view, in many cases -- but because they are being intolerant. The point I tried to make to one acquaintance back in 2007 was that people are often voting with their fear, so sitting on their front porch, sipping sweet tea, and LISTENING to what those fears are was a much better option than berating opponents.

Edited at 2011-07-20 01:52 pm (UTC)
mmneely932 From: mmneely932 Date: July 20th, 2011 06:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for the info on the SS benefits. Do you know if it is just the European countries? Most of the people I know that collected the benefits that I complain about are from Viet Nam, Laos and Cambodia. That was about 15 years ago when the was a large influx from the Southeast Asia. Now, and I am just guessing, the Somalis and other immigrants from the African area are collecting SS benefits.
Tolerance is probably the most important lesson I brought home from my 12 years of parochial school. But sometimes, it's reallllllly hard!
mmneely932 From: mmneely932 Date: July 20th, 2011 05:29 am (UTC) (Link)
Oh, one more thing, you do not get out of debt by borrowing money. I don't know whether he's a Dem or Rep but Obama and Congress all need to read Financial Peace by Dave Ramsey.
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