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Okay, two things, including a TS question
Marilyn's car is still up in the air (you wouldn't believe what Hyundai is putting her through - but we should all email them and give 'em hell!) but she's settled in a hotel nearby and with a loaner - YIPPPEEE - so she's got some freedom now. But she still needs all our prayers that Hyundai will get its &*#@ together and okay the work AND live up to her warranty and not charge her a dime! So keep those good thoughts coming.

Now, the TS question for those of us who are/were/will always be in the fandom:

Would Blair believe the Maya prediction regarding the end of the world for 2012????

Do you? (nice thought for the New Year, eh? *g*)


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mab_browne From: mab_browne Date: December 28th, 2011 02:45 am (UTC) (Link)
Best wishes to Marilyn for the car.

I think that Blair wouldn't believe it deep down but would still feel a little uneasy. Jim would think it's all bosh, and will take great delight in telling Blair so come the 23rd.

Me - I'm assuming that I'm still buying Xmas presents in 2012. *g*
alyburns From: alyburns Date: December 28th, 2011 04:38 am (UTC) (Link)

I agree on both Blair and Jim!

Jim might even go so far as to use his senses to 'convince' Blair it's true! LOL!

As for me - I may NOT do my "Christmas in July" sales in 2012....
caarianna From: caarianna Date: December 28th, 2011 03:05 am (UTC) (Link)
I appreciate all the good wishes and positive vibes regarding the car repairs. God knows, I need them all!

I don't think Blair would be concerned because, being a specialist of sorts, he'd know the whole thing is being blown out of context. I don't believe it, either ... but I'm glad we'll be 'riding it out' as it were when that dates rolls around! ::grins::

alyburns From: alyburns Date: December 28th, 2011 04:38 am (UTC) (Link)


on both!!!! :) *HUGS*
caarianna From: caarianna Date: December 28th, 2011 04:51 am (UTC) (Link)


::grinning:: By the way, did you get my email about calling me tomorrow?
aliciajd From: aliciajd Date: December 28th, 2011 03:11 am (UTC) (Link)
He wouldn't believe it, at all. But, he would make an in-depth study of what is making the people who do believe it tick.
alyburns From: alyburns Date: December 28th, 2011 04:39 am (UTC) (Link)

Okay, now that's a great

read of Blair. I never thought of that. Yeah, I can see him quizzing the gang...and Jim silently laughing....
fluterbev From: fluterbev Date: December 28th, 2011 03:18 am (UTC) (Link)
Blair would be interested in analysing the belief system that gave rise to the prediction, and he would probably have some critical comments to make (no doubt at length, to long-suffering Jim *g*) about the accuracy of equating the Mayan calendar with the Gregorian calendar to come up with a date of 2012. He wouldn't be worried about the world ending, though - there's a whole field of social science which studies doomsday predictions. This would be the latest in a long line that he'd be familiar with :-).

All the best to Marilyn for her car troubles, I hope things work out! Having issues myself with a broken down fridge (which I can't afford to replace right now) so I empathise with critical mechanical gadgets breaking down at the worst possible time of the year.

Hope you are well and happy, Aly xxx
alyburns From: alyburns Date: December 28th, 2011 04:43 am (UTC) (Link)

This is totally weird!

I was just saying to Marilyn today that I hadn't seen a post from you and here you are! Is that some sign of TS magic? :)

Now, I have a question for you about your answer: Analyzing, yeah, I can see that - but deep down, if he were to put all his science and knowledge aside, what do you think he'd really be...okay, thinking about the prediction? Any more concrete than all the other 'end of world' predictors?

And good thoughts on the fridge - please say you have friends/neighbors who are keeping your food cold for you????
fluterbev From: fluterbev Date: December 28th, 2011 08:49 am (UTC) (Link)
Heh, nice to hear you were thinking of me :-). I've not been around these parts much for quite a while. It's a combination of too much to do offline, computer issues (my laptop is on its last legs as well), and an acknowledgment that the fandom and I have drifted quite far apart. I feel quite sad about that last part, if truth be told, but I'm not quite sure it is fixable.

I don't think Blair would be more worried about this particular prediction than any other time. In fact, I think Kyanoswolf has hit the nail on the head in her answer below!

Thanks for the good thoughts. I only realised the problem last night, by which time it was too late to save most of what's in there. The freezer section still works (fingers crossed - I've not been downstairs yet to look whether it is still working this morning), it's the actual fridge part that has died. I was already planning to hold off on a loan payment this month to pay for christmas (you can take a one-month break from payments once a year, which of course adds more interest but at least it would have given me a chance to catch up) but now it seems I'll have to use that to replace the fridge, so no chance of diminishing my impressive overdraft, and the impossible dream of replacing my defunct laptop sooner, rather than later, is pretty much dead in the water. Sigh, it's really what I don't need right now. :-(

But! Enough moaning. Life is pretty good generally, better in many respects than it has been for years. Glass half-full, eh? :-)
kyanoswolf From: kyanoswolf Date: December 28th, 2011 04:15 am (UTC) (Link)
Blair would be the first to tell you that the Maya didn't predict the end of the world, just that their calendar would come to the end of a complete long count cycle on 12/21/12. He would then lecture (rant) on the calendar and how it was based on exacting observations of celestial phenomenon. And that the fact that the current B'ak'tun ends at the galactic alignment just goes to show how advanced their astronomy was. Jim would have to kiss him into silence.

Edited at 2011-12-28 04:16 am (UTC)
alyburns From: alyburns Date: December 28th, 2011 04:46 am (UTC) (Link)

Oh, now you've done it

Vickie! My thirst for knowledge has been let loose upon you! LOL! Tell me MORE! So the end of the calendar doesn't mean the end of the world, right? It's just that the more ignorant later on, when seeing their calendar ended on that date made an assumption? And what would end a calendar? TEACH ME, YODA!

*meanwhile, envisions Jim kissing Blair into silence...and sighs happily*
patk From: patk Date: December 28th, 2011 09:25 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Oh, now you've done it

>>And what would end a calendar? <<

The beginning of a new one? ;-)

Too bad they aren't around anymore to start it.
sallymn From: sallymn Date: December 28th, 2011 10:29 am (UTC) (Link)
My thoughts exactly - Blair will be absolutely fascinated by the whole historical/sociological/psychological background of end-of-the-world scares and want to share his fascination...
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 2nd, 2012 11:20 am (UTC) (Link)
What she said:-) I'm already fed up with hearing the whole 'end of the world thing'. It isn't the end of the world, or of civilation, just the end of the long calendar. In fact, the Maya calendar does continue.
If only people would do a bit more research...
Marion - doing her grumpy old woman bit for the new year ;-)
alyburns From: alyburns Date: January 3rd, 2012 01:43 am (UTC) (Link)


Hey, at least it got us talking about Jim and Blair again! WAHOO! :)

But you are right - we should do more research and be ready to share it - I know I learned a great deal from the comments! I had NO idea it was just the end of their calendar. *looks ashamed for not researching* I'm usually better at it. :( But it was still fun reading everyone's responses. :) And don't worry, my 2012 resolution is to be more grumpy. I'll fit in over here at my complex far better (and maybe get better service from the office! *BG*)
bluewolf458 From: bluewolf458 Date: December 28th, 2011 07:50 am (UTC) (Link)
I think Blair would say that the Mayan calendar had to end some time, and the end of one of their cycles was the obvious place - and as for the galactic alignment thing, earth, sun and galactic centre (over the distance involved) surely have to align at some point every year - I just don't believe that it only happens once in X thousand years!

Fingers still crossed about Marilyn's car - typical that a big firm is going to play silly buggers over a warranty! Are you expected to take a car back to wherever you bought it before the manufacturer honours a warranty? Guess she won't be buying a Hyundai car again... Hey, you could point out to them that she has a lot of friends worldwide who will be watching what they do, and *they* will have friends, and the amount of adverse comment on a failure on Hyundai's part to live up to a warranty will surely affect sales! :-) Word of mouth works both ways, after all.
vamysteryfan From: vamysteryfan Date: December 28th, 2011 04:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree with Kyanoswolf. Blair would rant about the pseudo-scientists taking an astronomical event and twisting it. He'd cite chapter and verse. Jim would secretly egg him on just to see him get all flushed and bright-eyed - he loves Blair's enthusiasm for his field even after all this time. Then Jim would present him with a trip to the Yucatan for June 2012.
math_magician From: math_magician Date: December 29th, 2011 03:47 am (UTC) (Link)
Blair would definitely not believe in this 'prediction', but might be bothered by some weird coincidences and intrigued by the hysteria of the masses. Can't you just hear that phrase coming out of his perfect lips?

Jim, of course, would have some very interesting words to say about the people who do believe it. None of them polite.

He would make sure to be beside Blair when the predicted end was near. Blair would think this was so funny, and so sweet. Much sappiness would ensue.
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